This is about the thousandth time I've read people asking for what you're asking for in the opening post. But anyway, I've thrown my 2 cents in by suggesting more simple stuff. It's rare in my experience to find a complete song set that suits what I'm doing. Even when you find a song set where 'verse variation 1' works a treat, you're often left disappointed by 10 fills that just don't work at all and bridges that try to be too flashy and choruses that play too shotgunny, or 5 other verse variations that are wildly different and totally unsuitable compared to the initial one you liked. It must be incredibly hard to cater for what is basically an unlimited creative demand. You can really tell the created in a computer ones. I get the feeling some loops are genuinely played but plenty are just pieced together.kick, snare, 16ths on the ride = a chorus loop etc.

I reckon sometimes the loops aren't ever even actually played.they are 'created'.

But some expansions only have 2 or 3 options.

I would have thought that if you go to the trouble to record a kit you'd lavish it with heaps of midi.maybe at least 10 song sets in intro, verse, chorus, bridge etc. Another thing that I find odd is that often when they release an expansion they only provide the most bare bones set of midi for it possible without any expanded midi available. They lean toward metal and rock with aggressive loops and fills to match. I emailed Toontrack a bit ago with this same suggestion, put in the nicest possible way. Intro/verse/chorus/fills/etc.* but I'm* not finding the midi packs that do it for me!Thanks for your input. Do those come with a lot of patterns and fills I can use?I* do like the way the patterns are laid out. I already ordered the Indie folk and Latin Percussion EZX packs. Do you have any suggestions without giving me hundreds of fills and patterns I'll never use?Would the songwriters edition be a good choice for my situation?* I wasn't crazy about some of the fills I sampled. Don't want over the top drum tracks.just simple tasteful beats and grooves and some nice simple fills without all the bombast.* And do some basic recording on my DAW. I'd like to create drum tracks for these original songs that an acoustic/electric duo can perform live with. But I would rather start out with drum parts that are closer to what I need from the start. Even though you can control the velocity on the toontrack midi it still seems like most patterns are played too aggressively.*I know you can tame some of the drums in the mixing. I haven't found the more simple straightforward tasteful fills that can be found in many 3rd party midi patterns.

Its like toontrack is trying to blow you away and wow the listener with these aggressive overly played parts.including many fills. *ДЄfter searching through the midi pack samples and trying out the fills and the fills that come with the demo of EZdrummer I find the same thing that others agree with on forums like gearslutz etc.Most of the toontrack midi drum patterns and fills are too bombastic and too busy. I use pop shuffles a lot like the Lovin' Spoonful's 'Do You Believe In Magic' beat. Also some jazzy pop like Bacharach and Steely Dan and some R&B. also folk and indie jangle rock like Byrds, Neil Young and REM. *I am a songwriter who's songs are influenced by 60's/70's pop mostly.

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